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		<link>http://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/other-peoples-optimism/#comment-97</link>
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		<title>By: supervalentthought</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/other-peoples-optimism/#comment-93</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your kind words about the work, very nice.  Meanwhile, to clarify, Zizek is the locus classicus of suspicion about people's political attachment, the shallowness of which, in his view, produces political stupefication (in his early work) and ethical atrophy (in his later work).  I've always thought that he was really unimaginative about ambivalence because he's so organized by a truth/falsity economy in the end, a disrespect for fantasy, in the end, and a belief in what a fierce rationality can do.  A fierce rationality can do a lot, but there's a lot it can't undo, and in fact ties in tighter knots. 

Anyway, I'm thinking about this here because I don't mean to say that the Obama money is enough, especially if all it buys is more Obama money.  What we want is for that money to buy a political will for a serious reorientation of US economic, legal, and administrative resources toward fairer economic and legal justice.  In re the law, all I meant was that from all I've read, he's not going to maintain the strong executive presumptions of the republicans (which I predict HRC would, since she's so authoritarian and hierarchical, as we see in the centrality of a culture of loyalty and deference in her political practice, and also in her hawkishness, which I fear is not just political compensation but actual). 

Obama believes in a strong constitutional law tilted toward the progressive side, and so would issue, I feel confident, a more balanced set of relations between the three governmental branches; not rely so much on extra-juridical practice, etc.  It might also provide alibis for lack of political courage:  In *The Root* last week, for example, Michael Dawson berates him for not condemning the police in the Sean Bell case on the grounds that the law had decided, and we have to respect the rule of law.  I agree with Dawson:  Obama could have had it both ways by respecting the rule of law in given instances while talking about interfering with the pattern of racially motivated excessive force. At the same time, I believe that while the current administration sees law as a tool and a weapon, Obama would return it to its rightful place as mediating institution that protects citizens from the state as well as each other, that *ought to* have a politically inconvenient relation to governmental will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your kind words about the work, very nice.  Meanwhile, to clarify, Zizek is the locus classicus of suspicion about people&#8217;s political attachment, the shallowness of which, in his view, produces political stupefication (in his early work) and ethical atrophy (in his later work).  I&#8217;ve always thought that he was really unimaginative about ambivalence because he&#8217;s so organized by a truth/falsity economy in the end, a disrespect for fantasy, in the end, and a belief in what a fierce rationality can do.  A fierce rationality can do a lot, but there&#8217;s a lot it can&#8217;t undo, and in fact ties in tighter knots. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m thinking about this here because I don&#8217;t mean to say that the Obama money is enough, especially if all it buys is more Obama money.  What we want is for that money to buy a political will for a serious reorientation of US economic, legal, and administrative resources toward fairer economic and legal justice.  In re the law, all I meant was that from all I&#8217;ve read, he&#8217;s not going to maintain the strong executive presumptions of the republicans (which I predict HRC would, since she&#8217;s so authoritarian and hierarchical, as we see in the centrality of a culture of loyalty and deference in her political practice, and also in her hawkishness, which I fear is not just political compensation but actual). </p>
<p>Obama believes in a strong constitutional law tilted toward the progressive side, and so would issue, I feel confident, a more balanced set of relations between the three governmental branches; not rely so much on extra-juridical practice, etc.  It might also provide alibis for lack of political courage:  In *The Root* last week, for example, Michael Dawson berates him for not condemning the police in the Sean Bell case on the grounds that the law had decided, and we have to respect the rule of law.  I agree with Dawson:  Obama could have had it both ways by respecting the rule of law in given instances while talking about interfering with the pattern of racially motivated excessive force. At the same time, I believe that while the current administration sees law as a tool and a weapon, Obama would return it to its rightful place as mediating institution that protects citizens from the state as well as each other, that *ought to* have a politically inconvenient relation to governmental will.</p>
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		<title>By: traveler</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/other-peoples-optimism/#comment-92</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that reading identification with Obama sort of functions as cognitive therapy for the oppressed. The woman is buoyed by a feeling while her material circumstances and the structures which ensure them remain the same. This is one thing I love about your work and your thought: it forces me to pause and realize that the woman's desperate and economically futile "attachment to possibility" isn't merely a matter of false hope, that there's more there (there) than I would have  thought.    


&lt;i&gt;I really do think he’s going to matter a lot to rehardwiring the law back to a state of liberal balance.&lt;/i&gt;

I would need clarification on this as I don't know what it means. I don't know what it means for the law - of all things - to have been hardwired for "liberal balance."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that reading identification with Obama sort of functions as cognitive therapy for the oppressed. The woman is buoyed by a feeling while her material circumstances and the structures which ensure them remain the same. This is one thing I love about your work and your thought: it forces me to pause and realize that the woman&#8217;s desperate and economically futile &#8220;attachment to possibility&#8221; isn&#8217;t merely a matter of false hope, that there&#8217;s more there (there) than I would have  thought.    </p>
<p><i>I really do think he’s going to matter a lot to rehardwiring the law back to a state of liberal balance.</i></p>
<p>I would need clarification on this as I don&#8217;t know what it means. I don&#8217;t know what it means for the law - of all things - to have been hardwired for &#8220;liberal balance.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: supervalentthought</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/other-peoples-optimism/#comment-91</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 22:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, great. Optimism is now sprouting desperate sub-genres all the time, modes of bargaining against losing the possibility of attachment to possibility. But let’s think about *why* that story about the Obama-spewing woman is a story about the standard voter’s craziness. Obama is like another dollar, in that woman’s head:  Obama means that she has capital that the white people on the bus don’t have, special Obama money in the pride bank. She might be poor, but she’s got the wealth of an identification that lifts her. That’s kind of awesome. He claims he’s going to use that glowing sense that he distributes to do courageous things. I really do think he’s going to matter a lot to rehardwiring the law back to a state of liberal balance. But he’s probably not going to do much to get her that dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, great. Optimism is now sprouting desperate sub-genres all the time, modes of bargaining against losing the possibility of attachment to possibility. But let’s think about *why* that story about the Obama-spewing woman is a story about the standard voter’s craziness. Obama is like another dollar, in that woman’s head:  Obama means that she has capital that the white people on the bus don’t have, special Obama money in the pride bank. She might be poor, but she’s got the wealth of an identification that lifts her. That’s kind of awesome. He claims he’s going to use that glowing sense that he distributes to do courageous things. I really do think he’s going to matter a lot to rehardwiring the law back to a state of liberal balance. But he’s probably not going to do much to get her that dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: traveler</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/other-peoples-optimism/#comment-90</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder - prosaically - if the bursting of the Hope bubble is unrelated to the dissonance (conscious or otherwise) between what animated that political desire and the reality of Obama's platform and agenda (think "Audacity" as you read his stance on pressing issues for a withering experience). Hence the emergence - widespread in my world - of what I might call crypto-optimism or post-optimism - maybe precious optimism is better. Precious optimism is the hope that &lt;i&gt;beneath&lt;/i&gt; Obama's bi-partisan, centrist politics he is &lt;i&gt;actually progressive&lt;/i&gt;, more progressive than can be openly demonstrated if he is to remain a viable nominee. His true colors are &lt;i&gt;too precious&lt;/i&gt; to publicly reveal.). At best, I experience this with sympathy: like the pathos one feels for genuine fans deeply moved by a derivative and insipid band (say, Coldplay), or for the desperate parent who believes a precocious child can redeem her unhappy life. 

I agree with Reed's comments on Democracy Now!: Obama's base is more fan club than movement (his calls for it to step up and be otherwise, notwithstanding). There is currently nothing analogous to the progressive and radical grassroots movements which  pushed FDR and JFK in progressive directions after taking office. Rather, Obama "fever" embraces another post-political presidential candidate who would fold cheery grassroots activism into the presidency itself. 

An incident put things into stark relief for me over the winter: one afternoon I witnessed a desperate, really crazy-seeming African-American woman ranting to a bus full of passengers in southside Chicago. She was screaming at the front of the bus when I boarded. I think she had a small child with her (seated near her). It seemed that her fare card was a dollar short of the needed fare and the driver had told her so. She had silenced the entire bus with her shouts that this was a conspiracy, that the card was to blame, that everyone in the bus needed to stick together on this, that otherwise we would all be next. She ranted for blocks, the driver long-since having dropped the matter, and just before I exited the bus she began to chant, "O-bama!, O-bama!, O-bama!, O-bama!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder - prosaically - if the bursting of the Hope bubble is unrelated to the dissonance (conscious or otherwise) between what animated that political desire and the reality of Obama&#8217;s platform and agenda (think &#8220;Audacity&#8221; as you read his stance on pressing issues for a withering experience). Hence the emergence - widespread in my world - of what I might call crypto-optimism or post-optimism - maybe precious optimism is better. Precious optimism is the hope that <i>beneath</i> Obama&#8217;s bi-partisan, centrist politics he is <i>actually progressive</i>, more progressive than can be openly demonstrated if he is to remain a viable nominee. His true colors are <i>too precious</i> to publicly reveal.). At best, I experience this with sympathy: like the pathos one feels for genuine fans deeply moved by a derivative and insipid band (say, Coldplay), or for the desperate parent who believes a precocious child can redeem her unhappy life. </p>
<p>I agree with Reed&#8217;s comments on Democracy Now!: Obama&#8217;s base is more fan club than movement (his calls for it to step up and be otherwise, notwithstanding). There is currently nothing analogous to the progressive and radical grassroots movements which  pushed FDR and JFK in progressive directions after taking office. Rather, Obama &#8220;fever&#8221; embraces another post-political presidential candidate who would fold cheery grassroots activism into the presidency itself. </p>
<p>An incident put things into stark relief for me over the winter: one afternoon I witnessed a desperate, really crazy-seeming African-American woman ranting to a bus full of passengers in southside Chicago. She was screaming at the front of the bus when I boarded. I think she had a small child with her (seated near her). It seemed that her fare card was a dollar short of the needed fare and the driver had told her so. She had silenced the entire bus with her shouts that this was a conspiracy, that the card was to blame, that everyone in the bus needed to stick together on this, that otherwise we would all be next. She ranted for blocks, the driver long-since having dropped the matter, and just before I exited the bus she began to chant, &#8220;O-bama!, O-bama!, O-bama!, O-bama!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: supervalentthought</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/other-peoples-optimism/#comment-86</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 12:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, generally, Sfrajett.  Other people's &lt;em&gt;political &lt;/em&gt;optimism. Your corollary point is, in a way, what I was writing about in &lt;em&gt;The Female Complaint&lt;/em&gt;.  Intimate publics are organized by narratives that foreground the optimism of survival. There's much less shame and anxiety around that. The optimism and education in survival that an intimate public provides trumps the shame about bad taste and being naive that induces anxieties about attachments in all matters of taste, including, for example, in one's lovers. To be exposed in an attachment, to be judged by what the normative world thinks it reveals about your need, your character, your value, induces big feelings of relief when it turns out that they're shared or confirmed by other people.  

But it is also worth saying that the forms of optimism about surviving the grittier zones of life can still produce anxiety:  for example, when people make fun of the kitschification of disease (breast cancer or AIDS ribbons, New Age spirituality, secularist splenetics against the religious, therapy culture, etc); or when people make fun of the Lifetime channel or Oprah.

As for "believing" in Obama: I never believed. He's not as empty as Adolph Green says, but he's not radical or all that progressive on &lt;em&gt;most&lt;/em&gt; things.  The health care plan isn't good; on the environment and immigration he's mixed; he'll return the US to a centrist-liberal jurisprudence (a relative relief from where we are), and dismantle the strong executive that Bush has constructed; he won't be a hothead hawk; he won't get goaded into cowboy diplomacy; Robert Reich works for him, so he won't be the worst neoliberal; but Sam Nunn has just signed on, which is pretty scary.  But to me when someone actually creates institutions for political organizing (the Obama fellowships) to turn a generation of politically engaged 20 year olds into politically identified workers, I &lt;em&gt;have &lt;/em&gt;to be happy:  after 30 years of political parties that wanted apathetic voters, that wanted the political to be delegated to them, we have a mainstream politician who wants people to build their political skills for activism.  OMG!  But this is what I mean about the shaky ground, the contradiction, of ambivalence/attachment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, generally, Sfrajett.  Other people&#8217;s <em>political </em>optimism. Your corollary point is, in a way, what I was writing about in <em>The Female Complaint</em>.  Intimate publics are organized by narratives that foreground the optimism of survival. There&#8217;s much less shame and anxiety around that. The optimism and education in survival that an intimate public provides trumps the shame about bad taste and being naive that induces anxieties about attachments in all matters of taste, including, for example, in one&#8217;s lovers. To be exposed in an attachment, to be judged by what the normative world thinks it reveals about your need, your character, your value, induces big feelings of relief when it turns out that they&#8217;re shared or confirmed by other people.  </p>
<p>But it is also worth saying that the forms of optimism about surviving the grittier zones of life can still produce anxiety:  for example, when people make fun of the kitschification of disease (breast cancer or AIDS ribbons, New Age spirituality, secularist splenetics against the religious, therapy culture, etc); or when people make fun of the Lifetime channel or Oprah.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;believing&#8221; in Obama: I never believed. He&#8217;s not as empty as Adolph Green says, but he&#8217;s not radical or all that progressive on <em>most</em> things.  The health care plan isn&#8217;t good; on the environment and immigration he&#8217;s mixed; he&#8217;ll return the US to a centrist-liberal jurisprudence (a relative relief from where we are), and dismantle the strong executive that Bush has constructed; he won&#8217;t be a hothead hawk; he won&#8217;t get goaded into cowboy diplomacy; Robert Reich works for him, so he won&#8217;t be the worst neoliberal; but Sam Nunn has just signed on, which is pretty scary.  But to me when someone actually creates institutions for political organizing (the Obama fellowships) to turn a generation of politically engaged 20 year olds into politically identified workers, I <em>have </em>to be happy:  after 30 years of political parties that wanted apathetic voters, that wanted the political to be delegated to them, we have a mainstream politician who wants people to build their political skills for activism.  OMG!  But this is what I mean about the shaky ground, the contradiction, of ambivalence/attachment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sfrajett</title>
		<link>http://supervalentthought.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/other-peoples-optimism/#comment-83</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 08:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there is something embarrassing about other people's political optimism--you've hit this one on the head.  Not so other kinds of optimism.  Hope for the future, hope for one's friends or one's children or one's life, hope that one will find love again, or a cure for a disease--these hopes move us.  A woman with breast cancer who gives up traditional medical treatments for something more holistic, or experimental, or spiritually-engaging--these I'm on board with.  But political optimism?  Here comes the new boss, same as the old boss. Fool me twice?  That's where the shame comes in.  Is it because it feels so limited?  After all, I'm being told I can drive one of two cars, but after I 'choose' one, I have to pretend it expresses my personality, and that it is the only one I ever could have wanted. A third one--a dodge minivan--is being forced on me too, but I can claim i hate it from the beginning, as it does doughnuts in my yard. It feels so 1984 to watch the recitation of "yes we can."  So Triumph of the Will. Like the space between individual agency and conformity folds together neatly, its edges touching. Maybe I feel like cynicism is the the only resistance I can make--the great refusal.  Yes we can close down Guantanamo Bay? Abu Ghraib?  Well, I guess I hope so. "Can" "we" do that?  Do "we" want to? Do "we" want to roll back DOMA? Have national health care?  Cause Obama isn't gonna give us national health care, and we need it worse than any single thing, even ending the war.   How different will the new boss be?  Not that different, I'm afraid.  Convinced, even. So I look away.  I'm not sure why--I believed for maybe a couple of weeks.  Not really now, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there is something embarrassing about other people&#8217;s political optimism&#8211;you&#8217;ve hit this one on the head.  Not so other kinds of optimism.  Hope for the future, hope for one&#8217;s friends or one&#8217;s children or one&#8217;s life, hope that one will find love again, or a cure for a disease&#8211;these hopes move us.  A woman with breast cancer who gives up traditional medical treatments for something more holistic, or experimental, or spiritually-engaging&#8211;these I&#8217;m on board with.  But political optimism?  Here comes the new boss, same as the old boss. Fool me twice?  That&#8217;s where the shame comes in.  Is it because it feels so limited?  After all, I&#8217;m being told I can drive one of two cars, but after I &#8216;choose&#8217; one, I have to pretend it expresses my personality, and that it is the only one I ever could have wanted. A third one&#8211;a dodge minivan&#8211;is being forced on me too, but I can claim i hate it from the beginning, as it does doughnuts in my yard. It feels so 1984 to watch the recitation of &#8220;yes we can.&#8221;  So Triumph of the Will. Like the space between individual agency and conformity folds together neatly, its edges touching. Maybe I feel like cynicism is the the only resistance I can make&#8211;the great refusal.  Yes we can close down Guantanamo Bay? Abu Ghraib?  Well, I guess I hope so. &#8220;Can&#8221; &#8220;we&#8221; do that?  Do &#8220;we&#8221; want to? Do &#8220;we&#8221; want to roll back DOMA? Have national health care?  Cause Obama isn&#8217;t gonna give us national health care, and we need it worse than any single thing, even ending the war.   How different will the new boss be?  Not that different, I&#8217;m afraid.  Convinced, even. So I look away.  I&#8217;m not sure why&#8211;I believed for maybe a couple of weeks.  Not really now, though.</p>
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